I don't think so...

Posted by Jack the Lion from ts003d42.col-oh.concentric.net on February 08, 1999 at 08:05:06:

In Reply to: Re: Someone else post on this too, in case I don't get it right. posted by nitzsche on February 05, 1999 at 23:36:04:

: : : : Towards the end of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Indy drinks from the Holy Grail, does'nt that mean Indy is invincible?What will the script writers do for Indiana Jones4?

: : : I asked this question once before too. This is the answer. He would only be invincible if he stayed in the cavey thinger. He had to walk out so he's not anymore.

: : I thought it was the grail itself that couldn't leave the cave. And I remember the other brother in the Crusades died of extreme old age. That suggests to me tht he drank from it, left the cave leaving his brother to guard it, lived a very long time, and died because his body became too worn out. Just a theory.

: : Check six.

: : -Mithrandir-

:
: All this repeated confusion on this subject stems from people not understanding the Knight when he states that the Grail cannot pass the great seal...

: ****That is the boundary and price of immortality****

: But, because the Grail DID pass the Great Seal (thanks to Elsa), the
: immortality was LOST. Plus, anyone drinking from the Grail is supposed to stay and guard it, thus the price of immortality. If a Knight passed the seal after guarding the Grail for say 900 years, he would lose his immortality and probably die in the desert. That's why the other Knight never made it.

: So, if Indy had remained in the cave would he be immortal? NO! Because the Grail crossed the Great Seal! But, the alternative scenario, if Elsa hadn't crossed the Seal with the Grail and Indy or Henry or anybody had stayed with the Grail, they would have been immortal. If you listen to the dialogue, it helps a lot.

: --nitzsche

I believe that if they leave the cave, they no longer have immortality, whether or not the grail is there. Obviously the knights brother didn't have immortality, and he walked out of the cave 150 years later. Also, I think the grail is still there, and the night is still alive, guarding it. Perhaps Hannibal King is correct in saying that you have to drink from it every day to maintain your immortality.

Just my thoughts.
-Jack

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: : : : : Towards the end of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Indy drinks from the Holy Grail, does'nt that mean Indy is invincible?What will the script writers do for Indiana Jones4?

: : : : I asked this question once before too.  This is the answer.  He would only be invincible if he stayed in the cavey thinger.  He had to walk out so he's not anymore.

: : : I thought it was the grail itself that couldn't leave the cave.  And I remember the other brother in the Crusades died of extreme old age.  That suggests to me tht he drank from it, left the cave leaving his brother to guard it, lived a very long time, and died because his body became too worn out.  Just a theory.

: : : Check six.

: : : -Mithrandir-

: : 
: : All this repeated confusion on this subject stems from people not understanding the Knight when he states that the Grail cannot pass the great seal...

: : ****That is the boundary and price of immortality****

: : But, because the Grail DID pass the Great Seal (thanks to Elsa), the
: : immortality was LOST. Plus, anyone drinking from the Grail is supposed to stay and guard it, thus the price of immortality. If a Knight passed the seal after guarding the Grail for say 900 years, he would lose his immortality and probably die in the desert. That's why the other Knight never made it.

: : So, if Indy had remained in the cave would he be immortal? NO! Because the Grail crossed the Great Seal! But, the alternative scenario, if Elsa hadn't crossed the Seal with the Grail and Indy or Henry or anybody had stayed with the Grail, they would have been immortal.  If you listen to the dialogue, it helps a lot.

: : --nitzsche

: I believe that if they leave the cave, they no longer have immortality, whether or not the grail is there.  Obviously the knights brother didn't have immortality, and he walked out of the cave 150 years later.  Also, I think the grail is still there, and the night is still alive, guarding it.  Perhaps Hannibal King is correct in saying that you have to drink from it every day to maintain your immortality.

: Just my thoughts.
: -Jack

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