Re: Raiders question

Posted by Michaelson from em12-686.utsi.edu on February 22, 1999 at 10:12:35:

In Reply to: Re: Raiders question posted by Anejo Joe on February 21, 1999 at 14:41:14:

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: : : : : Hi, in Raiders when indy swims over to the sub, and hitches a ride to the island with his bullwhip, even though they cut out that scene, how did he do it? His whip was onboard Katanya's ship, as well as his jacket and gun. How does he get them back, or does he have doubles back at his house? Just wondering.

: : : : : Brandon

: : : : If you'll notice in the beginning when Indy's running from the Hovitos, Belloq has his whip and gun, but yet somehow they appear back in Indy's closet. I guess there's some kinda magical connection between them.
: : : : Or maybe it's a hole in the editing. As for the losing it on the sub, I don't think they intended for a sequel, making the loss of the whip acceptable.

: : : : ~The Raider

: : : Euh, Belloq only took his gun Raider.
: : : -Webley-

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: : I think after Belloq took his gun he just purchased a new gun after he got back to the states. His leaving behind of all his equipment (even the hat!) as he swam to the sub would explain why the hat and jacket are slightly different in the Last Crusade. This would also account for all the different guns he used. He had to buy new ones!

: : That trip on the submarine always did bother me though. Spielberg obviously didn't film it because it would have been too complicated to work out the logistics. How do you hide on a sub? To tie yourself to the periscope with a whip is not a good idea!
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: I can understand replacing a Colt with a Smith & Wesson, but replacing a Smith & Wesson with a Webley? Unless he was in a bind, and that was all he could find at the time. But after having owned a Colt 1911, I have to wonder. I guess the revolvers looked more "1930's" to Spielberg.

AMEN TO THAT, BROTHER! I've been saying that post after post when this subject comes up. The Webley was the brainchild of the novel writers, who created the Last Crusade script. It continues to appear in book after book. In this last book by McCoy, it appears again, and .38 caliber for crying out loud!! Most anemic round ever created for a revolver. The Webley would be the LAST revolver I would have chosen to put in his holster. As progressive as Indy has been shown to be, why in the world set him back using a weapon from the late 19th Century that weighs a ton, and fires a hard to obtain round such as a .455? If it was a rebored .45 ACP, why the heck abandon the Colt 1911 (shown to be in his possession 2 years before in the Raiders story, 1936) that is much more efficient and fires the .45 ACP? This has been a pet peeve I've had since I saw the Webley appear in the third movie. Regards. Michaelson

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Re: Raiders question Abner 10:54:23 2/22/99 (11)
- The Webley in YIJC!! Webley 11:46:43 2/22/99 (10)
  - Re: The Webley in YIJC? Nope.... Michaelson 12:41:43 2/22/99 (9)
    - Re: The Webley in YIJC? Nope.... Webley 11:36:07 2/23/99 (0)
    - Re: The Webley in YIJC? Nope.... Anejo Joe 20:01:21 2/22/99 (7)
      - The Webley in YIJC? Nope....The Colt, yep.... Michaelson 16:04:50 2/23/99 (6)
        
        Re: The Webley in YIJC? Nope....The Colt, yep.... Webley 12:43:48 2/24/99 (3)
        
        Re: The Webley in YIJC? Nope....The Colt, yep.... Michaelson 16:41:22 2/24/99 (2)
        
        Re: The Webley in YIJC? Nope....The Colt, yep.... Webley 11:33:37 2/25/99 (1)
        
        I knew that's what you meant (nm) Michaelson 13:28:36 2/25/99 (0)
        
        Re: The Webley in YIJC? Nope....The Colt, yep.... Anejo Joe 21:43:01 2/23/99 (1)
        
        Re: The Webley in YIJC? Nope....The Colt, yep.... Michaelson 08:02:15 2/24/99 (0)

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: : : : : : Hi, in Raiders when indy swims over to the sub, and hitches a ride to the island with his bullwhip, even though they cut out that scene, how did he do it? His whip was onboard Katanya's ship, as well as his jacket and gun. How does he get them back, or does he have doubles back at his house? Just wondering.

: : : : : : Brandon

: : : : : If you'll notice in the beginning when Indy's running from the Hovitos, Belloq has his  whip and gun, but yet somehow they appear back in Indy's closet.  I guess there's some kinda magical connection between them.
: : : : : Or maybe it's a hole in the editing.  As for the losing it on the sub, I don't think they intended for a sequel, making the loss of the whip acceptable.

: : : : : ~The Raider

: : : : Euh, Belloq only took his gun Raider.
: : : : -Webley-

: : : 
: : : I think after Belloq took his gun he just purchased a new gun after he got back to the states.  His leaving behind of all his equipment (even the hat!) as he swam to the sub would explain why the hat and jacket are slightly different in the Last Crusade.  This would also account for all the different guns he used. He had to buy new ones!

: : : That trip on the submarine always did bother me though.  Spielberg obviously didn't film it because it would have been too complicated to work out the logistics.  How do you hide on a sub?  To tie yourself to the periscope with a whip is not a good idea!
: :

: : I can understand replacing a Colt with a Smith & Wesson, but replacing a Smith & Wesson with a Webley?  Unless he was in a bind, and that was all he could find at the time. But after having owned a Colt 1911, I have to wonder.  I guess the revolvers looked more "1930's" to Spielberg.

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: AMEN TO THAT, BROTHER! I've been saying that post after post when this subject comes up. The Webley was the brainchild of the novel writers, who created the Last Crusade script. It continues to appear in book after book. In this last book by McCoy, it appears again, and .38 caliber for crying out loud!! Most anemic round ever created for a revolver. The Webley would be the LAST revolver I would have chosen to put in his holster. As progressive as Indy has been shown to be, why in the world set him back using a weapon from the late 19th Century that weighs a ton, and fires a hard to obtain round such as a .455? If it was a rebored .45 ACP, why the heck abandon the Colt 1911 (shown to be in his possession 2 years before in the Raiders story, 1936) that is much more efficient and fires the .45 ACP? This has been a pet peeve I've had since I saw the Webley appear in the third movie. Regards. Michaelson

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