Re: One, not two, buckles

Posted by Michaelson from em12_686.utsi.edu on April 27, 1998 at 08:56:42:

In Reply to: One, not two, buckles posted by Stephen on April 27, 1998 at 05:18:55:

: Not believing the two buckles theory for Indy's satchel, I examined
: the Raiders fight scene in question and observed there is one, not
: two, buckles on Indy satchel. As pointed out earlier by another
: fan (sorry to the individual who first suggested the possibility, but
: I can't remember the name), there are several shots in which a
: buckle *does* appear on Indy's back. However, this is certainly
: accidental (Harrison Ford may have simply put the satchel on backward
: for some of the shots and didn't realize it). If you look closely
: at the sequence in which Indy knees one of the thugs in the stomach,
: you will see he is wearing the satchel backward (notice the small,
: round metal disk is facing forward and there is no flap closure to
: be seen - it is against his body, not facing outward). Furthermore,
: you can see an excellent shot of the front and fack of the strap
: during the sequence in which Indy snaps the staff into two pieces in
: the map room. You clearly see the front buckle while he is breaking
: the staff and then he turns to look for Sallah's rope and you clearly
: see the back of the strap... no buckle. It is doubtful, as some have
: speculated, that several versions of the bag were used... there is no
: reason to have a special buckle system in some sequences versus any
: other sequences.

: Just thought this could clear up things.

: Regards,
: Stephen
Wouldn't you like to be on the side of the folks who actually made these straps and hear them laughing at our discussions? You've looked at the film shot by shot, I've looked at the film frame by frame, and we each see something different. Granted, I wouldn't see any reason to change the strap arrangement either, but why change the coat design movie to movie, or the hat design, which they did? I guess until we actually see the definitive write up of the creators of the actual items, we'll never really know. I personally support a single buckle setup, but have seen the two buckle setup too. Two don't make a whole lot of sense to me, unless you'd want a lot of adjustment for length. I believe we haven't really cleared anything up, just added to the discussion. I believe the concensus does lean in your direction so far, though. Regards. Michaelson

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: : Not believing the two buckles theory for Indy's satchel, I examined
: : the Raiders fight scene in question and observed there is one, not
: : two, buckles on Indy satchel.  As pointed out earlier by another
: : fan (sorry to the individual who first suggested the possibility, but
: : I can't remember the name), there are several shots in which a
: : buckle *does* appear on Indy's back.  However, this is certainly
: : accidental (Harrison Ford may have simply put the satchel on backward
: : for some of the shots and didn't realize it).  If you look closely
: : at the sequence in which Indy knees one of the thugs in the stomach,
: : you will see he is wearing the satchel backward (notice the small,
: : round metal disk is facing forward and there is no flap closure to
: : be seen - it is against his body, not facing outward).  Furthermore,
: : you can see an excellent shot of the front and fack of the strap
: : during the sequence in which Indy snaps the staff into two pieces in
: : the map room.  You clearly see the front buckle while he is breaking
: : the staff and then he turns to look for Sallah's rope and you clearly
: : see the back of the strap... no buckle.  It is doubtful, as some have
: : speculated, that several versions of the bag were used... there is no
: : reason to have a special buckle system in some sequences versus any
: : other sequences.

: : Just thought this could clear up things.

: : Regards,
: : Stephen
: Wouldn't you like to be on the side of the folks who actually made these straps and hear them laughing at our discussions? You've looked at the film shot by shot, I've looked at the film frame by frame, and we each see something different. Granted, I wouldn't see any reason to change the strap arrangement either, but why change the coat design movie to movie, or the hat design, which they did? I guess until we actually see the definitive write up of the creators of the actual items, we'll never really know. I personally support a single buckle setup, but have seen the two buckle setup too. Two don't make a whole lot of sense to me, unless you'd want a lot of adjustment for length. I believe we haven't really cleared anything up, just added to the discussion. I believe the concensus does lean in your direction so far, though. Regards. Michaelson

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