Now hold up there....

Posted by Michaelson from em11-686.utsi.edu on September 22, 1999 at 08:29:34:

In Reply to: Revisionist history... posted by ROB T. on September 21, 1999 at 22:18:11:

: I've noticed on this forum that whenever anyone questions the motives of any of the characters in the Indy films everyone starts screaming, "Revisionist history" and gripes about "Political Correctness."
: Sometimes that's a valid complaint but not always.
: When I questioned the reasoning for having Shorty and Anakin do the things they do it was defended by bringing up that children were less valued in the thirties. I don't think that Indy would have put Shorty in that situation in the thirties anymore than he would've in the nineties.
: I disagree with the situation in the films because it implies that someone on the set of these films made a conscious decision to treat these characters this way. I don't feel that was the case. I think they just didn't think about it at all and I have a problem with that. It shows a certain carelessness on the filmmakers part that would be okay if Lucas and Spielberg were lessor directors. Since they are at the top tier of filmmakers I think it's alright to hold them to a higher standard than say some guy who just got his first film assignment.
: Both of these problems could have been solved very easily without taking anything away from these films. In "Temple of Doom" Indy could have told Shorty to stay in the village and Shorty could have sneaked out and followed Indy and Willie.
: In "Phantom Menace" they only needed to change Anakin's motive for participating in the pod race and given Qui Gonn some other way to get ahold of a hyperdrive system.
: Both questions fixed and neither film loses anything.
: I feel that both films took the easy way out and both films suffer because of it.
: It has nothing to do with political correctness, it's just logical.

My friend, I have not seen any "screaming" or "griping" in ANY posts regarding your points or any posts like this. We responded, you apparently don't agree. So be it. Any further discussion is pointless since you apparently believe we're yelling and griping when this subject is brought up, and yes, it has been brought up many times before on this forum with the same conclusions. Just because we don't agree with your drum beat doesn't mean we aren't listening to your points. Those of us that responded just don't agree with you. History supports Lucas's depiction of the era. I'm sorry, but speaking for myself I think people should recognize that this was how things were and should learn, not just shake their head and say "this can't be true", or as the old saw says "we'll be doomed to repeat our mistakes". Let it drop. Michaelson

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: : I've noticed on this forum that whenever anyone questions the motives of any of the characters in the Indy films everyone starts screaming, "Revisionist history" and gripes about "Political Correctness."
: : Sometimes that's a valid complaint but not always. 
: : When I questioned the reasoning for having Shorty and Anakin do the things they do it was defended by bringing up that children were less valued in the thirties. I don't think that Indy would have put Shorty in that situation in the thirties anymore than he would've in the nineties.
: : I disagree with the situation in the films because it implies that someone on the set of these films made a conscious decision to treat these characters this way. I don't feel that was the case. I think they just didn't think about it at all and I have a problem with that. It shows a certain carelessness on the filmmakers part that would be okay if Lucas and Spielberg were lessor directors. Since they are at the top tier of filmmakers I think it's alright to hold them to a higher standard than say some guy who just got his first film assignment.
: : Both of these problems could have been solved very easily without taking anything away from these films. In "Temple of Doom" Indy could have told Shorty to stay in the village and Shorty could have sneaked out and followed Indy and Willie.
: : In "Phantom Menace" they only needed to change Anakin's motive for participating in the pod race and given Qui Gonn some other way to get ahold of a hyperdrive system.
: : Both questions fixed and neither film loses anything.
: : I feel that both films took the easy way out and both films suffer because of it.
: : It has nothing to do with political correctness, it's just logical.

: My friend, I have not seen any "screaming" or "griping" in ANY posts regarding your points or any posts like this. We responded, you apparently don't agree. So be it. Any further discussion is pointless since you apparently believe we're yelling and griping when this subject is brought up, and yes, it has been brought up many times before on this forum with the same conclusions. Just because we don't agree with your drum beat doesn't mean we aren't listening to your points. Those of us that responded just don't agree with you. History supports Lucas's depiction of the era. I'm sorry, but speaking for myself I think people should recognize that this was how things were and should learn, not just shake their head and say "this can't be true", or as the old saw says "we'll be doomed to repeat our mistakes".  Let it drop. Michaelson

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