Posted by Max Schulte from ascend188.extern.uni-essen.de on May 19, 1998 at 11:10:24:
In Reply to: Re: Shoulder bag FAQ and other matters... posted by Michaelson on May 19, 1998 at 08:23:29:
: Well Max, after reviewing my material, and looking at our discussions, I believe you have about all you can handle regarding the weapons right here on the past forum entries. Not much to add to our discussions. As to the bag, there is a little more we can discuss, or cast more questions out there about. I own two of the bags...a 1948 version and one that apparently came from the 50's. It's difficult to read the date on the flap. The both have the same arrangements of pockets, but have different snaps on the flap, and have grommets installed inside the newer version that don't appear on the 40's bag. Another thing I find very intersting is the description from the "Cristy's" auction of several years ago that described one of the T of D bags that went up for auction. It was a 1942 version of the Mark VII, but was described as having only TWO interior pockets. What was done to this bag in order to fill this description, except to remove several of the smaller pockets. If this was indeed done, then the descrption and discussion as to whether or not you could put a whip inside would be answered, and that would be yes, you probably could with just two interior pockets. More mysteries. I have been involved in several discussions regarding the apparent view of one or two buckles on the bag. I will admit, the counter discussion has been quite good, and though I personally believe there were two versions at one time, the strongest arguments have been for the single slide buckle, and there has been plenty of proof offered to support this argument. Both of my bags have this type installed, and it is a very good system. Since we don't have the actual length of the strap, the best "guess-tament" is about 72" in length, a VERY dark chocolate brown, to almost black (I have one of each) with silver buckle, and silver snaps, or if you want a more correct permanent appearance, silver rivets at the rear ring. I have snaps on one, and rivets on the other. The snaps do make it a lot easier to remove the strap and throw the bag into the washer for cleaning. Since everyone is of different height, the 72" can be adjusted to whatever correct length you need. I am over 6' 1" myself, and the buckle hits me just below the sternum of my chest. If you were shorter, it would be higher of course. It appears to ride at about mid chest to Indy, so you're right in the ball park. Hope my little addition is helpful. Let me know if there is more I can add. Regards. Michaelson
Thank you Michaelson,
Maybe I'll include some more information about the length of the strap
and the buckle system. I can send you the pre-version of it via email
(this will increase traffic on the site) if you want to.
Also quite interesting post about the 'tech-talk' of whip specialists.
I always thought that the term "whip throw" would be the more general
term for the movements as it can refer to cracks as well as to cuts
Anyway, can you imagine any interesting or important questions for the
gun FAQ? What do you think about including some information about basic
safety rules, care/cleaning of the gun and the gun laws of the United
When did the ToD haversack appear at Cristy's? For what price was it
sold? I know someone who is a regular visitor of the auctions. About
one or two years ago I've myself been at Cristy's of London. I was able
to get some catalogues there. As far as I remember the books were
reviews of season 1994 and 1992.
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