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Posted by Dale Dassel from spider-wc022.proxy.aol.com on June 30, 2000 at 16:55:18:

In Reply to: MOST Impressive posted by Gregg on June 30, 2000 at 16:28:47:

Type in this URL and it will take you straight to the whip enthusiasts bios page. I am at the very bottom. I'm pleased
that you like the results of the whip carrier tests. That was,
in my opinion, the ONLY way to test it. I borrowed some of Indy's
most famous moves from the movies, games, and books. Very rigorous
testing, especially in 95-degree heat!!! I think you are right
concerning a thinner leather, with an unfinished inside. By the way,
the Kepler whip carrier has an unfinished inside.

-Dale Dassel

: On behalf of the bullwhip community (specifically the "Bulls-by-our-Side, Northwest division")--thank you. That was quite thorough, more than I imagined anyone would do...but EXACTLY what I had in mind.
: Looking forward to further updates/discoveries from the Dassel/Kepler Trials.

: Still haven't found you; maybe I don't have the right link.
: Gregg

: : RESULTS FOR THE 6-FOOT BULLWHIP:

: : FAST RUN: The whip stays in well when the handle is carried inside
: : of the whip carrier, although there was some slight uncoil effect,
: : attributed to the whip being so short.

: : RUN ENDING WITH A LARGE JUMP: Again, the whip stays in well, with
: : some slight uncoiling.

: : "PENITENT MAN" FORWARD ROLL: The bullwhip stayed in well, and was
: : firmly held in place. (The carrier unsnapped on the third try,
: : dropping the whip)

: : FAST RUN WITH AN ABRUPT STOP AND TURN: The bullwhip held firm
: : during this maneuver, although the coil slipped wide a bit
: : on the turn.

: : WALKING: The whip stays in the carrier well, but the handle
: : within the carrier tries to pull out, due to weight.

: : CLIMBING: The bullwhip stayed in place well and did not flop
: : around much during climbing.

: : RESULTS FOR THE 12-FOOT BULLWHIP:

: : FAST RUN: The whip stays in well, but tends to flop around to
: : the front of the legs due to the weight of it.

: : RUN ENDING WITH A LARGE JUMP: Again, the bullwhip stayed in place
: : well, but had a tendency to flop around.

: : "PENITENT MAN" FORWARD ROLL: The whip stayed in place, but the
: : weight of the handle and the slickness of the braid caused
: : the handle to slip out of the carrier and pull the lash out.

: : FAST RUN WITH AN ABRUPT STOP AND TURN: The bullwhip stayed put,
: : but flopped around.

: : WALKING: Bullwhip stayed in, but the handle tried to slip out,
: : due to excessive weight of the iron inside.

: : CLIMBING: The bullwhip performed very well during this test.
: : It stayed put and did not move.

: : CONCLUSION: Both bullwhips performed well overall. In every case
: : where the whip was placed in the carrier with the knob hanging out,
: : it was dragged to the fround. Tests indicate that the 12-foot
: : bullwhip stayed put better because of it's weight, numerous coils,
: : and mass. Both whips perform best when carried with the handle
: : within the whip carrier, knob butted up against it, and wrist loop
: : placed around carrier before it is snapped shut. This insures
: : that the bullwhip cannot fall out of it's carrier.

: : :
: : : Comparative tests were performed using the Kepler whip carrier
: : : with two David Morgan bullwhips of the #451 series: one 6-foot model,
: : : and one 12-foot model. Each bullwhip was placed in the whip carrier,
: : : firmly snapped in, and put through six different moves:
: : :
: : : 1 fast run
: : : 2 fast run, ending with a large jump
: : : 3 "Penitent man" forward roll
: : : 4 fast run, with an abrupt stop and turn
: : : 5 walking
: : : 6 climbing

: : : Each individual move was performed three times, with the handle
: : : hanging out of the carrier, and with the handle in the carrier.
: : : Comparative tests indicated that the bullwhip stayed inside
: : : the whip carrier better when the handle was carried within the
: : : loop.

: : : SEE NEXT POST FOR MORE INFORMATION..................................

:
: : : : : Bored and curious. This weekend I plan on making my carrier and was looking for feedback on useful/less things about the Kepler model.
: : : : : By the way, where ARE you on the Bullwhip Enthusiasts page?
: : : : : Gregg

: : : : : (p.s. Kathryn: "That's it, work it girl, work it...")
: : : : :

: : : :
: : : : Yes, I am at the very bottom, last bio.
: : : : It has been poring rain for the past two days, so I've not yet had
: : : : a chance to do it. But, good news: today it is bright and sunny
: : : : here in Warner Robins! I'm heading outside in about thirty minutes
: : : : to try the action-oriented whip carrier tests. Results to be announced. Stay tuned...

: : : : -Dale Dassel

: : : : Catherine: "Stuff or no stuff, you are good."

: : : : Lisa: "Well... THESE may not be THOSE, but THAT's not too shabby."
: : : : Catherine: "What?"
: : : : Lisa: "My ass!"

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:     Type in this URL and it will take you straight to the whip enthusiasts bios page. I am at the very bottom. I'm pleased
: that you like the results of the whip carrier tests. That was,
: in my opinion, the ONLY way to test it. I borrowed some of Indy's
: most famous moves from the movies, games, and books. Very rigorous
: testing, especially in 95-degree heat!!! I think you are right
: concerning a thinner leather, with an unfinished inside. By the way,
: the Kepler whip carrier has an unfinished inside.

:                                  -Dale Dassel

: 
: : On behalf of the bullwhip community (specifically the "Bulls-by-our-Side, Northwest division")--thank you. That was quite thorough, more than I imagined anyone would do...but EXACTLY what I had in mind.
: : Looking forward to further updates/discoveries from the Dassel/Kepler Trials.

: : Still haven't found you; maybe I don't have the right link.
: : Gregg

: : : RESULTS FOR THE 6-FOOT BULLWHIP:

: : : FAST RUN: The whip stays in well when the handle is carried inside
: : : of the whip carrier, although there was some slight uncoil effect,
: : : attributed to the whip being so short.

: : : RUN ENDING WITH A LARGE JUMP: Again, the whip stays in well, with
: : : some slight uncoiling.

: : : "PENITENT MAN" FORWARD ROLL: The bullwhip stayed in well, and was
: : : firmly held in place. (The carrier unsnapped on the third try,
: : : dropping the whip)

: : : FAST RUN WITH AN ABRUPT STOP AND TURN: The bullwhip held firm
: : : during this maneuver, although the coil slipped wide a bit
: : : on the turn.

: : : WALKING: The whip stays in the carrier well, but the handle
: : : within the carrier tries to pull out, due to weight.

: : : CLIMBING: The bullwhip stayed in place well and did not flop
: : : around much during climbing.

: : : RESULTS FOR THE 12-FOOT BULLWHIP:

: : : FAST RUN: The whip stays in well, but tends to flop around to
: : : the front of the legs due to the weight of it.

: : : RUN ENDING WITH A LARGE JUMP: Again, the bullwhip stayed in place
: : : well, but had a tendency to flop around.

: : : "PENITENT MAN" FORWARD ROLL: The whip stayed in place, but the
: : : weight of the handle and the slickness of the braid caused 
: : : the handle to slip out of the carrier and pull the lash out.

: : : FAST RUN WITH AN ABRUPT STOP AND TURN: The bullwhip stayed put,
: : : but flopped around.

: : : WALKING: Bullwhip stayed in, but the handle tried to slip out,
: : : due to excessive weight of the iron inside.

: : : CLIMBING: The bullwhip performed very well during this test.
: : : It stayed put and did not move.

: : : CONCLUSION: Both bullwhips performed well overall. In every case
: : : where the whip was placed in the carrier with the knob hanging out,
: : : it was dragged to the fround. Tests indicate that the 12-foot
: : : bullwhip stayed put better because of it's weight, numerous coils,
: : : and mass. Both whips perform best when carried with the handle
: : : within the whip carrier, knob butted up against it, and wrist loop
: : : placed around carrier before it is snapped shut. This insures
: : : that the bullwhip cannot fall out of it's carrier.

: : : : 
: : : :      Comparative tests were performed using the Kepler whip carrier
: : : : with two David Morgan bullwhips of the #451 series: one 6-foot model,
: : : : and one 12-foot model. Each bullwhip was placed in the whip carrier,
: : : : firmly snapped in, and put through six different moves:
: : : :  
: : : : 1 fast run
: : : : 2 fast run, ending with a large jump
: : : : 3 "Penitent man" forward roll
: : : : 4 fast run, with an abrupt stop and turn
: : : : 5 walking
: : : : 6 climbing

: : : : Each individual move was performed three times, with the handle
: : : : hanging out of the carrier, and with the handle in the carrier.
: : : : Comparative tests indicated that the bullwhip stayed inside
: : : : the whip carrier better when the handle was carried within the
: : : : loop.

: : : : SEE NEXT POST FOR MORE INFORMATION..................................

: : 
: : : : : : Bored and curious. This weekend I plan on making my carrier and was looking for feedback on useful/less things about the Kepler model.
: : : : : : By the way, where ARE you on the Bullwhip Enthusiasts page? 
: : : : : : Gregg

: : : : : : (p.s.  Kathryn: "That's it, work it girl, work it...")
: : : : : :

: : : : : 
: : : : :    Yes, I am at the very bottom, last bio.
: : : : : It has been poring rain for the past two days, so I've not yet had
: : : : : a chance to do it. But, good news: today it is bright and sunny
: : : : : here in Warner Robins! I'm heading outside in about thirty minutes
: : : : : to try the action-oriented whip carrier tests. Results to be announced. Stay tuned...

: : : : :                                             -Dale Dassel

: : : : :  Catherine: "Stuff or no stuff, you are good."

: : : : :  Lisa: "Well... THESE may not be THOSE, but THAT's not too shabby."
: : : : :  Catherine: "What?"
: : : : :  Lisa: "My ass!"

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