Re: Indy's brim...

Posted by Michaelson from leospace047.utsi.edu on July 14, 2000 at 13:19:54:

In Reply to: Indy's brim... posted by Austin Powers on July 13, 2000 at 00:41:58:

One thing you must keep in mind is that a fedora must fit the shape of the individuals face as well. We all strive to hit the "correct" brim width as worn by Ford in the movies, but let's face it, on some of us that particular brim width would make us look like we have a derby on our heads, on others it would make us appear like a fire plug. Work with what you have, then tailor the brim to the look that fits YOUR face. Re-read some of the past discussions that old Patterson has written in his quest and work on an Akubra. He had to go with a much wider brim width for his hat to dimensionally fit his face shape and features. Check out his results by clicking on the "staff" icon at IndyGear and see the outline of his final results as the Akubra appears on his head. Pretty dead on to my eye, and yet I personally KNOW that his brim cut was larger that Fords were on his original HJ. My point? You have Ford's HJ's information from several sources, but work with YOUR particular hat to fit YOUR face and head and see what makes it look correct on YOU. We're all different, and therefore our fedoras will be too. You'll be much happier with the results when you go that route, and you'll be wearing YOUR fedora, not a facimile of someone else's. Just my opinion. By the way, good to hear from you again, Austin! Regards. Michaelson

: I've bought 3 different fedoras hoping to find one that achieves "the look", and they've come very close. I first got the Stetson 005, which was good for a color match but the crown height was off and the ribbon was too thick. Then I got an Akubra Bushman. The crown height was perfect and I got it shaped exactly like the Raiders hat, but the color was totally wrong and I cut the brim down too short. The last hat I ordered was the Indiana Miller from Miller Hats. The color is great and the crown height is right on. I got it shaped like the Temple of Doom hat, but the Raiders look could be easily achieved. The only thing that's holding the hat back is its brim. I ordered it with a dimensional cut of 2.75" front/back and 2.5" on each side. Now maybe it's the "automic flange" they used to shape the brim, but it doesn't quite look good enough for my critical eye. So for the hell of it I looked at some Indy pictures and noticed that the front of his brim folds down(from a side angle) farther back on the hat than my fedoras did. Mine fold down almost exactly where the brim meets the crown, where his folded/bended down closer to where the bow on the ribbon starts. So when I folded my hats to match they started looking a lot more like Indy's. And by doing this I noticed that the dimensionally cut hat didn't react the same way, it actually made it look worse. So it made me wonder if Indy's hat was ever dimensionally cut in the first place.

: Another thing I noticed came from seeing other fedora-type hats on TV. Some had the perfect Indy look to the brim. And those ones had the fold farther back on the hat as well. And they had kind of an upside down V shape goin' on from the side view. The back of the brim obviously slanted down and so did the front. They kinda met in the middle.

: The ABSOLUTE closest brim to the Indy brim that I own is on and old and cheap JC Penney fedora I had as a kid. The brim is shaped more like an outback hat than a conventional fedora.

: So I don't know what my message means, just thought I'd bring up some observations I made.

: Austin....Danger Powers

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What Michaelson is saying in a very nice way is that I have a fat head (snif)... Patterson 11:17:21 7/19/2000 (1)
- More room for all those brains! (Did I talk my way out of that one? (grins)) (nm) Michaelson 22:13:04 7/24/2000 (0)

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: One thing you must keep in mind is that a fedora must fit the shape of the individuals face as well. We all strive to hit the "correct" brim width as worn by Ford in the movies, but let's face it, on some of us that particular brim width would make us look like we have a derby on our heads, on others it would make us appear like a fire plug. Work with what you have, then tailor the brim to the look that fits YOUR face. Re-read some of the past discussions that old Patterson has written in his quest and work on an Akubra. He had to go with a much wider brim width for his hat to dimensionally fit his face shape and features. Check out his results by clicking on the "staff" icon at IndyGear and see the outline of his final results as the Akubra appears on his head. Pretty dead on to my eye, and yet I personally KNOW that his brim cut was larger that Fords were on his original HJ. My point? You have Ford's HJ's information from several sources, but work with YOUR particular hat to fit YOUR face and head and see what makes it look correct on YOU. We're all different, and therefore our fedoras will be too. You'll be much happier with the results when you go that route, and you'll be wearing YOUR fedora, not a facimile of someone else's. Just my opinion. By the way, good to hear from you again, Austin! Regards. Michaelson

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: : I've bought 3 different fedoras hoping to find one that achieves "the look", and they've come very close. I first got the Stetson 005, which was good for a color match but the crown height was off and the ribbon was too thick. Then I got an Akubra Bushman. The crown height was perfect and I got it shaped exactly like the Raiders hat, but the color was totally wrong and I cut the brim down too short. The last hat I ordered was the Indiana Miller from Miller Hats. The color is great and the crown height is right on. I got it shaped like the Temple of Doom hat, but the Raiders look could be easily achieved. The only thing that's holding the hat back is its brim. I ordered it with a dimensional cut of 2.75" front/back and 2.5" on each side. Now maybe it's the "automic flange" they used to shape the brim, but it doesn't quite look good enough for my critical eye. So for the hell of it I looked at some Indy pictures and noticed that the front of his brim folds down(from a side angle) farther back on the hat than my fedoras did. Mine fold down almost exactly where the brim meets the crown, where his folded/bended down closer to where the bow on the ribbon starts. So when I folded my hats to match they started looking a lot more like Indy's. And by doing this I noticed that the dimensionally cut hat didn't react the same way, it actually made it look worse. So it made me wonder if Indy's hat was ever dimensionally cut in the first place.

: : Another thing I noticed came from seeing other fedora-type hats on TV. Some had the perfect Indy look to the brim. And those ones had the fold farther back on the hat as well. And they had kind of an upside down V shape goin' on from the side view. The back of the brim obviously slanted down and so did the front. They kinda met in the middle.

: : The ABSOLUTE closest brim to the Indy brim that I own is on and old and cheap JC Penney fedora I had as a kid. The brim is shaped more like an outback hat than a conventional fedora.

: : So I don't know what my message means, just thought I'd bring up some observations I made.

: : Austin....Danger Powers

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