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Posted by Dakota Ellison from spider-te073.proxy.aol.com on September 16, 2000 at 16:21:34:

In Reply to: Re: I am going to order a Peterbros Raiders custom hat. What should I tell him to do to my hat to make it just like the Raiders Hat? posted by Fedora on September 16, 2000 at 14:53:18:

: : I am not sure what the specifications are for the Raiders Hat. Can someone please steer me in the right direction because I want my hat to be just like the one in Raiders of the Lost Ark. Thanks so much!

: First of all he does an excellent job on recreating the Raiders fedora. And like the other post stated, give him your hat size. I am now awaiting my second hat, and I wear a 7 1/4, so I will give you the specs that I gave him, since he really makes these hats to YOUR specs. These need to be highly detailed. I ordered the mink brown with the darkest brown 1 1/2 inch ribbon that he has. The open crown height is 5 7/8, sides straight up, with no taper. The distance to the top of the front pinch is 4 3/4 inches, and the same in the back. This allows the sides of the hat to rise above the pinch. I always specify a tight Raiders style pinch, and on my first hat, had to pinch it a bit tighter using steam. I may have to do the same on this next hat, but no problem. I don't give him any specs on the height of the sides of the crown, since I know that if he uses the specs on the front pinch and open crown height, the sides will be on the mark. The brim size is a dimensional cut, 2 3/4 by 2 5/8, and since I have him curl the sides of the brim up a bit, this looks really accurate to my eye. My first hat had the red liner, which is ok, but I prefer the white as the HJ's come with this, and I want mine as close as possible. He now has the white in stock for us, and for the additional 10.00, it is worth it to me personally. I griped about this extra charge at first, but after realizing I have to do the same in my business, have had a change of heart. I sent Joe several pics of the raiders fedora, and they were of the ones used in the movie that I really liked. Mostly when his fedora was still in good shape. Anyway, that's about it. I might add that if your head is oval shaped or a long oval, you might send a pic as specified on his web page, or maybe just tell him. You are gonna love his hats! Regards, Fedora

I just looked amongst my hatrack full of fedoras (and a couple of cowboy hats). There was one I bought a couple years ago at a Burlington Coat Factory store for $30 I think. Real fur felt but real flimsy and sort of a greenish light brown. Well, it had a white satin liner with two gold lions holding a crest with no name sort of a generic hat logo. So I ripped it out and put it in my Petersbros,right on top of the red liner.. It really does make it more like the real McCoy (As in Last Crusade when Indy's sittin there at the cliff and the hat comes rolling up to him. I remember when I first saw it at the theater thinkin "jeese, he lost the hat, what about the hat?", and here it comes rollin up to him. The whole audience laughed.) So, I have to wait a while but I'll probably get another too, with the white liner. Even at $185, its a great buy, a great Raiders hat, a work of art, if you will. And Fedora, your advice nails it. When Indygear adds the PB to their fedora page they should also add that paragraph. Take it easy.
Cheers!

Ellison


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