Re: Those're some bad examples, Doc...

Posted by Doc from spider-wm044.proxy.aol.com on December 02, 2000 at 17:42:02:

In Reply to: Those're some bad examples, Doc... posted by Austin Powers on December 02, 2000 at 03:41:11:

: All your examples were of has-beens. Connery was retired or somethin' in the Rock, wasn't he? Eastwood has looked like full-body turkey chin for the last 15 years. Tommy Lee Jones can still pull off tough-guy roles, but he doesn't play characters who run from boulders and swing on whips. And the Jack Palance reference....what's up with that? He played a good crothety old man, not an action star. His only stunt in the City Slickers movies was walking. I think IF they ever get their heads outta their asses and make another Indy film it'll be NOTHING like the previous 3. It'll be a character study of a past-his-prime adventurer. To me that's just a big waste of time. People don't like Indy because of what makes him tick. They like him BECAUSE he runs from boulders and swings from a whip. I think if they make Indy 4 with a 60+ year-old Ford it'll have the same effect as making a Superman 5 with Christopher Reeve.

: Austin Powers

People like Indy because he runs from boulders and swings from a whip. (Your words, not mine) Harrison himself has said that all he does is "running, jumping, and falling". All the rest of it is done by stunt guys. Sure, an octogenarian Indiana Jones would be pretty farfetched, but as long as he can still pull of the aforementioned three activities, I don't see a problem with Ford at 60+ playing Indy. Besides, your dismissal of the actors that I listed was less than convincing. Sure, Connery played a retired soldier in The Rock. A retired soldier who was called back into action, and ran, fell, and jumped without so much as breaking a sweat. And what's with the Tommy Lee Jones dis? "Tommy Lee Jones can still pull off tough-guy roles, but he doesn't play characters who run from boulders and swing on whips." No kidding he doesn't play characters who run from boulders and swing on whips. That would be ripping off Indy. He plays characters who chase fugitives and get into fistfights. He gets just as physical as Harry does. So keep an open mind about such things. Just because Ford is 60 doesn't mean he can't still do Indy. Hell, he was 47 when he did LC. As long as he can run, jump, fall, and act, he'll do fine. The whip swinging we can leave to the stuntmen.

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You don't get the point, do ya? Austin Powers 01:54:20 12/03/2000 (22)
- It's not that I don't "get the point". I simply don't agree with it. Doc 23:42:19 12/03/2000 (0)
- Re: You don't get the point, do ya? Fedora 10:18:19 12/03/2000 (19)
  - Still not sinkin' in, is it? Austin Powers 15:51:24 12/03/2000 (18)
    - Wow, and just as I was about to AGREE with you for once.... Indiana Jimmie 03:22:47 12/04/2000 (10)
      - THAT'S MY ARGUMENT. THE WAY INDY WAS PORTRAYED IN THE EPISODE OF YOUNG INDY. I DON'T WANNA SEE 2 HOURS OF THAT KIND OF "ACTION". (nm) Austin Powers 14:58:27 12/04/2000 (9)
        
        That wasn't quite MY point either.....but yelling ALWAYS makes YOUR point, doesn't it? As I said, more room for the rest of us....(NM) Indiana Jimmie 16:02:33 12/04/2000 (8)
        
        Yeah I have no idea what you just said. I'm done with ya, Jimmie. (nm) Austin Powers 20:12:40 12/04/2000 (7)
        
        Only cos ya can't take it...PAL. I think you understand what I just said perfectly. (NM) Indiana Jimmie 23:19:57 12/04/2000 (6)
        
        It's like talkin' to a brick wall. (nm) Austin Powers 15:18:20 12/05/2000 (5)
        
        THAT'S been MY point all along!! (NM) Indiana Jimmie 01:27:27 12/06/2000 (4)
        
        Wow, that's mighty big of you to admit that YOU also believe that having a conversation with you is like talking to a brick wall. (nm) Austin Powers 13:56:31 12/06/2000 (3)
        
        Nope....not what I meant at all.....you KNOW what I meant...gotta have the last word though, don't ya PAL (NM) Indiana Jimmie 14:21:23 12/06/2000 (2)
        
        As a matter of fact..... Indiana Jimmie 14:59:32 12/06/2000 (1)
        
        Mecka hecka high mecka highney hoe...(nm) Austin Powers 03:52:25 12/08/2000 (0)
    - OK Mr. Powers, I will challenge you on this. I will bet you that Indy 4 will be made, and that it will be sucessful at the box office. How about the price of a new fedora? Let's back up your deeply held convictions with a little cash. (nm) Fedora 19:52:12 12/03/2000 (6)
      - This isn't a contest, pal.... Austin Powers 02:05:26 12/04/2000 (5)
        
        Never said it was...just wanted you to put your money where your mouth is, that's all. (nm) Fedora 21:49:17 12/04/2000 (4)
        
        Yeah I'm pretty sure the "challenge" you proposed where the winner receives a prize in the way of fedora money kind of made it a contest. But maybe you got a different version of Webster's than I do.(nm) Austin Powers 15:22:06 12/05/2000 (2)
        
        It's almost certainly one that teaches PROPER english...(NM) Indiana Jimmie 23:52:56 12/07/2000 (0)
        
        Or maybe he's just not a big flamin' retarded...aw, never mind. What good would it do? He's here whether we like it or not...(NM) Indiana Jimmie 01:28:57 12/06/2000 (0)
        
        This is a bet i'd take.....against Austin.....(NM) Indiana Jimmie 23:22:17 12/04/2000 (0)
- STILL an annoying prick, and YES, you ARE speaking for yourself.....as usual.....(NM) Indiana Jimmie 04:34:29 12/03/2000 (0)

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: : All your examples were of has-beens. Connery was retired or somethin' in the Rock, wasn't he? Eastwood has looked like full-body turkey chin for the last 15 years. Tommy Lee Jones can still pull off tough-guy roles, but he doesn't play characters who run from boulders and swing on whips. And the Jack Palance reference....what's up with that? He played a good crothety old man, not an action star. His only stunt in the City Slickers movies was walking. I think IF they ever get their heads outta their asses and make another Indy film it'll be NOTHING like the previous 3. It'll be a character study of a past-his-prime adventurer. To me that's just a big waste of time. People don't like Indy because of what makes him tick. They like him BECAUSE he runs from boulders and swings from a whip. I think if they make Indy 4 with a 60+ year-old Ford it'll have the same effect as making a Superman 5 with Christopher Reeve.

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: People like Indy because he runs from boulders and swings from a whip. (Your words, not mine) Harrison himself has said that all he does is "running, jumping, and falling".  All the rest of it is done by stunt guys.  Sure, an octogenarian Indiana Jones would be pretty farfetched, but as long as he can still pull of the aforementioned three activities, I don't see a problem with Ford at 60+ playing Indy. Besides, your dismissal of the actors that I listed was less than convincing.  Sure, Connery played a retired soldier in The Rock. A retired soldier who was called back into action, and ran, fell, and jumped without so much as breaking a sweat.  And what's with the Tommy Lee Jones dis? "Tommy Lee Jones can still pull off tough-guy roles, but he doesn't play characters who run from boulders and swing on whips."  No kidding he doesn't play characters who run from boulders and swing on whips. That would be ripping off Indy. He plays characters who chase fugitives and get into fistfights. He gets just as physical as Harry does.  So keep an open mind about such things.  Just because Ford is 60 doesn't mean he can't still do Indy.  Hell, he was 47 when he did LC.  As long as he can run, jump, fall, and act, he'll do fine. The whip swinging we can leave to the stuntmen.

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