It's not that I don't "get the point". I simply don't agree with it.

Posted by Doc from spider-tp021.proxy.aol.com on December 03, 2000 at 23:42:19:

In Reply to: You don't get the point, do ya? posted by Austin Powers on December 03, 2000 at 01:54:20:

: You guys are missing my point worse than Shaq at the line. Connery's character in the Rock was a brand-new character with no preconceived images of him being physical. He played a (your words not mine) retired soldier. Now maybe I'm speaking for just myself when I say NOBODY wants to see a retired Indy being called back into action for one last Space Cowboys-ish adventure. I've also heard Ford's comment regarding the "running and jumping and falling". By bringing that up you proved my point even more. The character's place in Pop Culture-dom is solely based on this "running and jumping and falling". Raiders of the Lost Ark would've faded away into oblivion and produced no sequels if Indy was actionless. And that's what he'll be at 60+. Granted, stuntmen CAN do the whip-swingin' and truck-draggin', but who's gonna believe that a 60-year-old Indy is managing these feats?

: As far as my Tommy Lee Jones comment goes I think I was RIGHT on track. I didn't literally mean that he never runs from boulders and swings from whips, which you decided would be an Indy rip-off. I meant that his physical activity in movies is in a different category. Punching people and chasing fugitives is NOT in the same league as what Indy does/did.

: Regarding Ford being 47 when Last Crusade was filmed...47 is a hell of a lot different than 60. At 47 he still LOOKED like he could physically pull of the death-defying stunts. People never thought twice about seeing him in the Indy outfit. Picture Ford in his current state in full Indy gear. Looks pretty sad, don't it?

: Here's a quote from Spielberg in '89:

: "People love Indiana Jones, and they wanna see more of him in the same leather jacket and fedora hat...and so do I."

: The same leather jacket and fedora hat....that IS Indy. You take away his outfit and he's just a guy. And with the outfit comes the expectation of an able-bodied adventurer who can drag from a truck without needing hip-replacement surgery.

: What happened to Fonzie and Barbarino? They got old. Nobody wants to see a 50-year-old guy hittin' on chicks. And no one wants to see a 60-year-old guy dressed as Indy.

: Austin Powers

Hey, man, if you don't want to see Harry Ford at 60 do Indy again, it's your loss. Let's face it, the entire trilogy requires you to check your disbelief at the door, and for two hours of entertainment, I'm willing to go along with the fact that a sextagenarian can still knock some heads together. (Especially considering that he's a sextagenarian whose sipped from the Holy Grail.) Besides, it's not the years, it's the mileage.

-Doc

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: : You guys are missing my point worse than Shaq at the line. Connery's character in the Rock was a brand-new character with no preconceived images of him being physical. He played a (your words not mine) retired soldier. Now maybe I'm speaking for just myself when I say NOBODY wants to see a retired Indy being called back into action for one last Space Cowboys-ish adventure. I've also heard Ford's comment regarding the "running and jumping and falling". By bringing that up you proved my point even more. The character's place in Pop Culture-dom is solely based on this "running and jumping and falling". Raiders of the Lost Ark would've faded away into oblivion and produced no sequels if Indy was actionless. And that's what he'll be at 60+. Granted, stuntmen CAN do the whip-swingin' and truck-draggin', but who's gonna believe that a 60-year-old Indy is managing these feats?

: : As far as my Tommy Lee Jones comment goes I think I was RIGHT on track. I didn't literally mean that he never runs from boulders and swings from whips, which you decided would be an Indy rip-off. I meant that his physical activity in movies is in a different category. Punching people and chasing fugitives is NOT in the same league as what Indy does/did.

: : Regarding Ford being 47 when Last Crusade was filmed...47 is a hell of a lot different than 60. At 47 he still LOOKED like he could physically pull of the death-defying stunts. People never thought twice about seeing him in the Indy outfit. Picture Ford in his current state in full Indy gear. Looks pretty sad, don't it?

: : Here's a quote from Spielberg in '89:

: : "People love Indiana Jones, and they wanna see more of him in the same leather jacket and fedora hat...and so do I."

: : The same leather jacket and fedora hat....that IS Indy. You take away his outfit and he's just a guy. And with the outfit comes the expectation of an able-bodied adventurer who can drag from a truck without needing hip-replacement surgery.

: : What happened to Fonzie and Barbarino? They got old. Nobody wants to see a 50-year-old guy hittin' on chicks. And no one wants to see a 60-year-old guy dressed as Indy.

: : Austin Powers

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: Hey, man, if you don't want to see Harry Ford at 60 do Indy again, it's your loss.  Let's face it, the entire trilogy requires you to check your disbelief at the door, and for two hours of entertainment, I'm willing to go along with the fact that a sextagenarian can still knock some heads together. (Especially considering that he's a sextagenarian whose sipped from the Holy Grail.) Besides, it's not the years, it's the mileage.

: -Doc

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