Re: HJ hat linings and other stuff...

Posted by Michaelson from leospace047.utsi.edu on February 20, 2001 at 19:45:49:

In Reply to: Re: HJ hat linings and other stuff... posted by Dakota Ellison on February 20, 2001 at 19:34:48:

: : Hi folks. I just got my new HJ hat linings in the mail and I thought
: : I would report to folks that they have changed their hat linings
: : again. This is the third incarnation of hat lining since the films.
: : The first linings seen in the movie hats (most auspiciously in LC when
: : he takes his hat off and when it blows across the ground in front of
: : him) had burgundy and gold printing on a white lining. The second
: : lining (and those that I have had on my two hats up until now) were
: : white with a burgundy oval seal afixed to the lining with gold print
: : on the seal. Well, the new linings are simply white linings with gold
: : print on them. I am a little disappointed as I really liked the look
: : of the burgundy seal. Alas! Time marches on. Still nice though.

: : Also, I recently bought some petersham ribbon which wasn't dark enough
: : to replicate the LC ribbon but I dyed it successfully with RIT liquid
: : dye (combination of dark brown and black) and came out with a great
: : looking ribbon! Thought I would share this with anyone else who
: : wanted to try it. The ribbon was Judith M ribbon (which is
: : cotton/rayon - cotton blend ribbon takes dye vs. polyester which does
: : not), but it was too light. I used a combination of 2/3 dark brown
: : dye and 1/3 black dye and heated in a pan on the stove, left the
: : ribbon in the pan (hot water, not boiling) for about a half hour. It
: : came out terrific!

: : The other thing I wanted to mention is that with all of this talk
: : about the jackets, I looked again at my early Leather Concessionaires
: : jacket (the former name of Wested-still made by Peter). I can
: : officially report to you all that it looks exactly like the Raiders
: : jacket on all of the nitpicky points that have been scrutinized (size
: : of collar, leather colar facing, length of pleats in back, width of
: : the back shoulder panel, location of straps, gussets under the arms,
: : etc.) and for damn sure looks better than those images of the flight
: : suits jacket. I am wondering if this older pattern was more authentic
: : because it hadn't gone through so many incarnations. I think that
: : when I choose to buy a new jacket, I may consider mailing this old one
: : back to Peter to not only have it replicated but give him the
: : opportunity to t

: The dye also takes some of the sheen out of the ribbon, giving it a more authentic retro look. I ordered 10 yards from Judith M this last time. Should last through a few hats.
: Very interesting about the jacket. One wonders why Peter had an almost exact "Raiders" jacket,(thanks to Lee Kepler apparently)and did't stay with it.
: Cheers,
: Dakota

He's been asked, but no real answer has ever been given to date. Regards. Michaelson

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: : : Hi folks.  I just got my new HJ hat linings in the mail and I thought 
: : : I would report to folks that they have changed their hat linings 
: : : again.  This is the third incarnation of hat lining since the films.  
: : : The first linings seen in the movie hats (most auspiciously in LC when 
: : : he takes his hat off and when it blows across the ground in front of 
: : : him) had burgundy and gold printing on a white lining.  The second 
: : : lining (and those that I have had on my two hats up until now) were 
: : : white with a burgundy oval seal afixed to the lining with gold print 
: : : on the seal.  Well, the new linings are simply white linings with gold 
: : : print on them.  I am a little disappointed as I really liked the look 
: : : of the burgundy seal.  Alas!  Time marches on.  Still nice though.

: : : Also, I recently bought some petersham ribbon which wasn't dark enough 
: : : to replicate the LC ribbon but I dyed it successfully with RIT liquid 
: : : dye (combination of dark brown and black) and came out with a great 
: : : looking ribbon!  Thought I would share this with anyone else who 
: : : wanted to try it.  The ribbon was Judith M ribbon (which is 
: : : cotton/rayon - cotton blend ribbon takes dye vs. polyester which does 
: : : not), but it was too light.  I used a combination of 2/3 dark brown 
: : : dye and 1/3 black dye and heated in a pan on the stove, left the 
: : : ribbon in the pan (hot water, not boiling) for about a half hour.  It 
: : : came out terrific!

: : : The other thing I wanted to mention is that with all of this talk 
: : : about the jackets, I looked again at my early Leather Concessionaires 
: : : jacket (the former name of Wested-still made by Peter).  I can 
: : : officially report to you all that it looks exactly like the Raiders 
: : : jacket on all of the nitpicky points that have been scrutinized (size 
: : : of collar, leather colar facing, length of pleats in back, width of 
: : : the back shoulder panel, location of straps, gussets under the arms, 
: : : etc.) and for damn sure looks better than those images of the flight 
: : : suits jacket.  I am wondering if this older pattern was more authentic 
: : : because it hadn't gone through so many incarnations.  I think that 
: : : when I choose to buy a new jacket, I may consider mailing this old one 
: : : back to Peter to not only have it replicated but give him the 
: : : opportunity to t

: :    The dye also takes some of the sheen out of the ribbon, giving it a more authentic retro look. I ordered 10 yards from Judith M this last time. Should last through a few hats. 
: :   Very interesting about the jacket. One wonders why Peter had an almost exact "Raiders" jacket,(thanks to Lee Kepler apparently)and did't stay with it. 
: : Cheers,
: : Dakota

: He's been asked, but no real answer has ever been given to date. Regards. Michaelson

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