Re: How did Indy do in Boy Scouts? Excellent points here!

Posted by belloq from spider-tf084.proxy.aol.com on October 04, 1998 at 13:30:12:

In Reply to: Re: How did Indy do in Boy Scouts? Excellent points here! posted by Michaelson on October 02, 1998 at 06:41:01:

: : : : Rather poorly, I should think.

: : : : I'm sure this will rattle a few cages, but my experience with the scouts when I was growing up was that it was their way, or the highway. Creative thinking was not encouraged (and by all indications, I was part of one of the more laid-back troops). I tended to want to do things my way (which was usually better than theirs, anyway) and this didn't go over too well. I have a feeling Indy would probably have tired of the whole afair after a very short time. You'll note the exasperated tone in which he mumbles "Everyone's lost but me", in a manner that implied this wasn't the first time he'd been frustrated by such problems. People who can, do. Those who can't, scout.

: : : : Just my $0.02 worth...

: : : : -IJFan

: : : You know, as much as I like and support a great institution as scouting, in searching back through my old retired brain cells, I'm forced to admit I have to agree with you completely. The scouting I experienced throughout the 60's were indeed exactly how you described. If it wasn't "by the book", or official scout book, then it just wasn't so. I also can not visualise Indy lasting to far into his badges to make any kind of impact. Maybe they've loosened up some by now, but from my experiences, and considering we're speaking of the period of 1912 which was a heck of a lot closer to the origination date of the scouts, I'd say you're right on target. Interesting observation, my friend. Regards. Michaelson

: :
: : Unless my recollection is wrong, I believe Indy had achieved the rank
: : of Life Scout in Last Crusade. That's just one rank below Eagle and
: : would have taken him at least a few years to attain. Perhaps my scout
: : troop was different, but I remember my scouting experience as a very
: : fun time... and not always "by the book." Our scoutmasters were
: : knowledgeable, helpful, and always tried to make sure we had a great
: : time on camping trips.

: : Regards,
: : Stephen

: Well, you'll have to agree, scouting veterans are probably like military vets....we all have different war stories to tell, and no two will be the same. Aren't you glad? Nothing bores me more than a bunch sitting around nodding their heads in agreement about everything. Keeps things interesting. I didn't catch the Life Scout level. Good eye. Regards. Michaelson

: In support of Scouting: Aside from the above criticism of mindless subordination and its reputation of Scoutmaster abuse, both issues of which have been popularly exagerated, Scouting remains one of the most widespread and accessible opportunities for "adventure" of which any youngster in any town may partake. Many skills for outdoor travel and survival as well as broader skills for a successful and independent life are learned. Where else in today's common suburban settings can a boy find outdoor adventure and hands-on experiential learning of that kind? It can be postulated that Indy's fictional aptitude for adventure is indebted to the reality of Scouting's ideals. belloq

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: : : : : Rather poorly, I should think.

: : : : : I'm sure this will rattle a few cages, but my experience with the scouts when I was growing up was that it was their way, or the highway.  Creative thinking was not encouraged (and by all indications, I was part of one of the more laid-back troops).  I tended to want to do things my way (which was usually better than theirs, anyway) and this didn't go over too well.  I have a feeling Indy would probably have tired of the whole afair after a very short time.  You'll note the exasperated tone in which he mumbles "Everyone's lost but me", in a manner that implied this wasn't the first time he'd been frustrated by such problems.  People who can, do.  Those who can't, scout.

: : : : : Just my $0.02 worth...

: : : : : -IJFan

: : : : You know, as much as I like and support a great institution as scouting, in searching back through my old retired brain cells, I'm forced to admit I have to agree with you completely. The scouting I experienced throughout the 60's were indeed exactly how you described. If it wasn't "by the book", or official scout book, then it just wasn't so. I also can not visualise Indy lasting to far into his badges to make any kind of impact. Maybe they've loosened up some by now, but from my experiences, and considering we're speaking of the period of 1912 which was a heck of a lot closer to the origination date of the scouts, I'd say you're right on target. Interesting observation, my friend. Regards. Michaelson

: : : 
: : : Unless my recollection is wrong, I believe Indy had achieved the rank
: : : of Life Scout in Last Crusade.  That's just one rank below Eagle and
: : : would have taken him at least a few years to attain.  Perhaps my scout
: : : troop was different, but I remember my scouting experience as a very
: : : fun time... and not always "by the book."  Our scoutmasters were
: : : knowledgeable, helpful, and always tried to make sure we had a great
: : : time on camping trips.

: : : Regards,
: : : Stephen

: : Well, you'll have to agree, scouting veterans are probably like military vets....we all have different war stories to tell, and no two will be the same. Aren't you glad? Nothing bores me more than a bunch sitting around nodding their heads in agreement about everything. Keeps things interesting. I didn't catch the Life Scout level. Good eye. Regards. Michaelson

: : In support of Scouting:  Aside from the above criticism of mindless subordination and its reputation of Scoutmaster abuse, both issues of which have been popularly exagerated, Scouting remains one of the most widespread and accessible opportunities for "adventure" of which any youngster in any town may partake.  Many skills for outdoor travel and survival as well as broader skills for a successful and independent life are learned.  Where else in today's common suburban settings can a boy find outdoor adventure and hands-on experiential learning of that kind?  It can be postulated that Indy's fictional aptitude for adventure is indebted to the reality of Scouting's ideals. belloq

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