Re: My post below; you weren't listening....

Posted by Hoth from 1Cust52.tnt1.broken-arrow.ok.da.uu.net on July 31, 2001 at 06:48:36:

In Reply to: My post below; you weren't listening.... posted by Shawnkara on July 31, 2001 at 02:42:21:

: I see that nearly everyone who replied missed the point entirely. And whoever said I was whining, since when is giving a opinion whining? My mistake, I thought this forum was "The discussion of all things Indy". Yes, I'm well aware of the cold war and the post WWII political state of the world. But now you're talking espionage, spy games and the like. If you want to see "Indy" face such storylines go rent any one of the Clancy films. The Indiana Jones films are a adventure serial based around archaeology. The only reason the Nazis were ever brought in was due to the fact Hitler REALLY WAS obsessed with the occult and the search for divine power. The backbone of the Indy films is the embelishment of historical fact. The Nazi presence was never meant to play into the story politically, and it never did. If you're getting into the cold war thing, then I'm afraid it will become a political story, far departed from what Indy has always been. You all act like I've said that Ford sucks, he'sa decepid old fart and can't be Indy anymore. You weren't listening. If you go back PRIOR TO "RAIDERS" he'd have to be replaced. Especially if you were to deal with the back story of Abner and Marion. Indy hadn't spoken to Abner in ten years. He was thirty-eight in 'Raiders'. How in the Hell do you expect a sixty year-old Ford to pass for twenty-eight or younger? If you were to write a story set in the LATE... 40's, then Ford is still the only Indy. I was not attacking the man's talent, age or contribution, I was stating a fact; Ford can not play Indy in his early to late twenties. If you're going to get so pissed at me then you may as well write to Speilberg and tell him that you're pissed about Ford being replaced by Pheonix and Flannery. Based on what some of you seem to think Ford could have easily pulled off a sixteen year-old Indy.

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In your other post you said this-

"I really can't see a story with the same flavor and feel taking place in a post-WWII world." & "The only way to tell a true Indy story is to go back PRIOR to 'Raiders'. "

What's wrong with a post war scenario? I agree that Ford is too old to play a young Indy, but I just can't see why you're so hell-bent on keeping Indy young. Even fictional characters age, and that doesn't mean the adventure has to become less interesting. Just take a look at 'Mystery of the Blues'- Indy was probably around 50 and still getting into trouble. Like you said, the backbone is archaeology and not politics, so there's no reason to keep it within the WW2 timeframe- unless you're one that can't break free from the nostalgia. Ford could play Indy at any age and it'll still be Indy and still kick ass.

Hoth

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YAH! without Ford, there is NO ass-kicking!! eom DR. JONES 19:51:00 7/31/2001 (0)

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: : I see that nearly everyone who replied missed the point entirely. And whoever said I was whining, since when is giving a opinion whining? My mistake, I thought this forum was "The discussion of all things Indy". Yes, I'm well aware of the cold war and the post WWII political state of the world. But now you're talking espionage, spy games and the like. If you want to see "Indy" face such storylines go rent any one of the Clancy films. The Indiana Jones films are a adventure serial based around archaeology. The only reason the Nazis were ever brought in was due to the fact Hitler REALLY WAS obsessed with the occult and the search for divine power. The backbone of the Indy films is the embelishment of historical fact. The Nazi presence was never meant to play into the story politically, and it never did. If you're getting into the cold war thing, then I'm afraid it will become a political story, far departed from what Indy has always been. You all act like I've said that Ford sucks, he'sa decepid old fart and can't be Indy anymore. You weren't listening. If you go back PRIOR TO "RAIDERS" he'd have to be replaced. Especially if you were to deal with the back story of Abner and Marion. Indy hadn't spoken to Abner in ten years. He was thirty-eight in 'Raiders'. How in the Hell do you expect a sixty year-old Ford to pass for twenty-eight or younger? If you were to write a story set in the LATE... 40's, then Ford is still the only Indy. I was not attacking the man's talent, age or contribution, I was stating a fact; Ford can not play Indy in his early to late twenties. If you're going to get so pissed at me then you may as well write to Speilberg and tell him that you're pissed about Ford being replaced by Pheonix and Flannery. Based on what some of you seem to think Ford could have easily pulled off a sixteen year-old Indy.

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: In your other post you said this-

: "I really can't see a story with the same flavor and feel taking place in a post-WWII world." &  "The only way to tell a true Indy story is to go back PRIOR to 'Raiders'. "

: What's wrong with a post war scenario? I agree that Ford is too old to play a young Indy, but I just can't see why you're so hell-bent on keeping Indy young. Even fictional characters age, and that doesn't mean the adventure has to become less interesting. Just take a look at 'Mystery of the Blues'- Indy was probably around 50 and still getting into trouble. Like you said, the backbone is archaeology and not politics, so there's no reason to keep it within the WW2 timeframe- unless you're one that can't break free from the nostalgia. Ford could play Indy at any age and it'll still be Indy and still kick ass.

: Hoth

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