Re:Move on & learn from the past.

Posted by India Jones from ? (141.11.234.1) on Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 2:19pm :

In Reply to: Move on & learn from the past? posted by Rundquist from adsl-63-201-187-189.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net (63.201.187.189) on Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 12:56pm :

Rundquist,

The Israelis are not Arabic. I think your confusing this with the fact that both Arabs and people of Jewish origin (Hebrews if you prefer) are Semites (eg. antisemitism). On your comment about dealing with "these people" with force, just who are you referring to? Terrorists or the whole of the Palestinian or Arabic people? I think that it would be pretty ignorant to think that we need to group all the people of one nation or faith or race into one category and say that they need to be dealt with in a certain way. I hope that this is not what the Israelis are thinking because not so long ago in history, a certain person by the name of Hitler made this very statement about the Jews. I am hoping we have learned something from history but I'm not sure.

: By their standards, we're a bunch of cowards. They bomb our embassies and sink our ships and we do nothing (moving on?). Give me a break. Israel gets a lot of criticism for dealing with these people with force but remember, the Israelis are Arabic too. They understand how the opposition thinks. They understand that force is the only thing these people understand. The Islamic leaders may train the young to sacrifice themselves for the greater cause of almighty Allah, but when the fighting gets close to them and their own families are threatened, they chill the hell out. Anybody remember the bombing of Libya and the effect it had on Muammar Qaddafi?

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: : Listen man, all you people have a very bad misconception about the
: : attacks in new york and washington .It is a very very very terrible
: : thing that happened .These terrorists attacked the US because of the
: : american foreign policy in the middle east. The united states have
: : turned a blind eye to the palestinian killings that occur nearly
: : everyday by the isreali forces.In such a state of hopelessnes ,in
: : which the most powerful country in the world did not seem to care
: : about the palestinians being killed, caused such hatred towards America.THAT is why you saw that palestinians rejoicing on cnn .Now
: : by writing this i am not being anti-american because belive me i love america its a country that every country in world aspires to be like,
: : but you have to see both sides of it ,and not think from an american perspective but also from a palestinian perspective.Think for yourselves why they did this and how America can try to ratify the situation and not nuke the hell out of the so called "towel heads" first and ask questions later. I just hope that the American people can move on with their lives and learn from the past.

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Perhaps my generalizations were too "sweeping". - Rundquist 2:58pm 09/13/2001

Re: Perhaps my generalizations were too "sweeping". - India Jones 8:38am 09/14/2001

On the contrary. - Rundquist 12:57pm 09/14/2001

So what are you suggesting? - India Jones 1:16pm 09/14/2001

I know I wanted this to be the end of it, but..... - Rundquist 1:34pm 09/14/2001

PS - Rundquist 1:14pm 09/14/2001

Agreed on all your points in this post (nm) - India Jones 1:22pm 09/14/2001

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: Rundquist, : The Israelis are not Arabic. I think your confusing this with the fact that both Arabs and people of Jewish origin (Hebrews if you prefer) are Semites (eg. antisemitism). On your comment about dealing with "these people" with force, just who are you referring to? Terrorists or the whole of the Palestinian or Arabic people? I think that it would be pretty ignorant to think that we need to group all the people of one nation or faith or race into one category and say that they need to be dealt with in a certain way. I hope that this is not what the Israelis are thinking because not so long ago in history, a certain person by the name of Hitler made this very statement about the Jews. I am hoping we have learned something from history but I'm not sure. : IJ : : By their standards, we're a bunch of cowards. They bomb our embassies and sink our ships and we do nothing (moving on?). Give me a break. Israel gets a lot of criticism for dealing with these people with force but remember, the Israelis are Arabic too. They understand how the opposition thinks. They understand that force is the only thing these people understand. The Islamic leaders may train the young to sacrifice themselves for the greater cause of almighty Allah, but when the fighting gets close to them and their own families are threatened, they chill the hell out. Anybody remember the bombing of Libya and the effect it had on Muammar Qaddafi? : : xxxxxxxxxxxx : : : Listen man, all you people have a very bad misconception about the : : : attacks in new york and washington .It is a very very very terrible : : : thing that happened .These terrorists attacked the US because of the : : : american foreign policy in the middle east. The united states have : : : turned a blind eye to the palestinian killings that occur nearly : : : everyday by the isreali forces.In such a state of hopelessnes ,in : : : which the most powerful country in the world did not seem to care : : : about the palestinians being killed, caused such hatred towards America.THAT is why you saw that palestinians rejoicing on cnn .Now : : : by writing this i am not being anti-american because belive me i love america its a country that every country in world aspires to be like, : : : but you have to see both sides of it ,and not think from an american perspective but also from a palestinian perspective.Think for yourselves why they did this and how America can try to ratify the situation and not nuke the hell out of the so called "towel heads" first and ask questions later. I just hope that the American people can move on with their lives and learn from the past.

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