At last! A decent comparison!!

Posted by Brian from hide14.nhs.uk on July 13, 1999 at 02:07:37:

In Reply to: A review of the Cooper/US Wings Indy Jacket... posted by Todd on July 12, 1999 at 15:25:24:

Hey Todd,

Thanks. I've always wondered what observations could be made with the 2 jackets side by side. I agree with you on the differences. They can't be denied.

I have a Cooper which I love dearly and if I was to go out on a limb I would say it's a closer match to the Raiders and TOD jackets than the pics I've seen (which are numerous) of the Wested. And I also mean in leather type too. If you notice the jacket in Raiders and TOD it hangs on Ford with a weighted appearance as if a heavier leather (e.g. cowhide) and in Crusade it "sits" quite neatly. I often wonder if they really all were lambskin. I know Pete Botwright has apparantly confirmed that they were.

In saying all that, I am still getting a Wested soon. But I do think you have made some good points which need addressing. There are some new clouds of doubt cast up with your review but I don't see any harm if it can be established that there were more differences than first first suggested by Pete.

One of the possibilities is that after Pete lost the original pattern (so I read), he made a new one based on the Cooper jackets (yeah, I know, blasphemy!) hence the TOD styling. Then when it came time for LC, he found the original pattern (so I read), considered the TOD jacket and made a few adjustments to "average" the appearance or alter it so no one jacket was the same as in the other films.

This is purely speculative, so I would welcome any helpful comments.

Regards,

Brian

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: Hey Todd,

: Thanks.  I've always wondered what observations could be made with the 2 jackets side by side.  I agree with you on the differences.  They can't be denied.

: I have a Cooper which I love dearly and if I was to go out on a limb I would say it's a closer match to the Raiders and TOD jackets than the pics I've seen (which are numerous) of the Wested.  And I also mean in leather type too.  If you notice the jacket in Raiders and TOD it hangs on Ford with a weighted appearance as if a heavier leather (e.g. cowhide) and in Crusade it "sits" quite neatly.  I often wonder if they really all were lambskin.  I know Pete Botwright has apparantly confirmed that they were.

: In saying all that, I am still getting a Wested soon.  But I do think you have made some good points which need addressing.  There are some new clouds of doubt cast up with your review but I don't see any harm if it can be established that there were more differences than first first suggested by Pete.

: One of the possibilities is that after Pete lost the original pattern (so I read), he made a new one based on the Cooper jackets (yeah, I know, blasphemy!) hence the TOD styling.  Then when it came time for LC, he found the original pattern (so I read), considered the TOD jacket and made a few adjustments to "average" the appearance or alter it so no one jacket was the same as in the other films.

: This is purely speculative, so I would welcome any helpful comments.

: Regards,

: Brian

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