Good points

Posted by Michaelson from 150.182.1.47 on April 17, 2000 at 17:53:52:

In Reply to: "Leave him alone, you bastards!!" posted by New Jersey Hughes on April 16, 2000 at 21:30:09:

: Anyone interested in declaring a moratorium on George Lucas-bashing? I mean, I've been really enjoying this forum a lot since discovering it, but if it's got a dark, sour underbelly, it's the inveterate demonization of Lucas that's really uncool.

: I mean, some posts actually make 'humourous' threats of violence and death! I mean, does everyone really hate the guy THAT MUCH? Do some of you actually think that he's a negative influence on STAR WARS & INDY films? I say all this at the risk of sounding like a mindless fanboy; hey, I'll point out all the things I dislike in his work as much as anyone. I agree totally that the man has been involved in films that have ranged from the brilliant to the mundane, but just because we all despise Jar-Jar Binks and think PHANTOM MENACE was a mediocre film in a usually brilliant series, some us feel the need to kick the guy's teeth in?

: Yeah, not every step up to the plate yields a home run, but when you're slammimg on the guy, please try to remember that, faults and all, the guy gave us STAR WARS and INDIANA JONES, and our generation got to experience all that, first-hand, in the theatres. Even if you find EPISODES II & III and Indy 4 to be the most awful films of your life, it can't ever take STAR WARS, RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, and a lot of other swell films away you.

: YOU may read this and say, "Jesus, calm down; I was only kidding" That's probably true for most of us, but if there are so many of us doing it, it ain't that funny anymore. I'll probably gonna get rapped in the mouth for saying all this; but, if I ever met George Lucas face-to-face, the first thing outta my mouth would probably an apology: "Sorry, man; the guys down in the front row who throw beer bottles at you don't speak for all of us."

I would say that what we've been reading here at the forum has been a classic example of "yeah, sure, but what has he done for us LATELY!" No one ever remembers the items you mention above in that light. I guess there are valid points to both sides of the argument, as he did create everything you mention above, but they all occured in the late '70s and sporatically throughout the 80's. It's 2000 now. The natives are restless to experience what many of us experienced first hand at the premiers of those classics you mention that occurred so many years ago. They want the same shot, and it hasn't been delivered to date. Even I was surprised at myself when I borrowed and watched the new SW movie on small screen recently. It actually took me 3 days to get through it, as I kept wandering off after losing interest at certain stages of the story development, and I saw it in the theater when it came out. I just don't do that, regardless of how good or bad a film is. Who's at fault? I'm not sure. I certainly hope that he hasn't lost the magic he had when we first saw his original works. I personally don't think so. I agree the bashing has received to date needs to stop, but like I said before, I can understand the frustration. I also don't think we should be to the point of the hanging him in effigy yet. Even great ball players get in a slump now and again, no matter how hard they try. Sooner or later they get back up there. I honestly believe Lucas will deliver again at the level everyone expects, and Indy IV will be another crown jewel in the collection of so many past Lucas successes. Regards. Michaelson

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What do you mean "Lately" Michaelson? Brett (Maverick) Lambert 17:51:34 4/19/2000 (1)
- Huh? Michaelson 19:06:21 4/19/2000 (0)
For Better of Worse... Reiger 00:28:58 4/19/2000 (0)
Re: Good Points New Jersey Hughes 19:28:52 4/17/2000 (1)
- Thanks. That's just my spin on it. Oh, yes, please pass the dip...(grins) nm Michaelson 19:35:33 4/20/2000 (0)

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: : Anyone interested in declaring a moratorium on George Lucas-bashing?  I mean, I've been really enjoying this forum a lot since discovering it, but if it's got a dark, sour underbelly, it's the inveterate demonization of Lucas that's really uncool.

: : I mean, some posts actually make 'humourous' threats of violence and death!  I mean, does everyone really hate the guy THAT MUCH?  Do some of you actually think that he's a negative influence on STAR WARS & INDY films?  I say all this at the risk of sounding like a mindless fanboy; hey, I'll point out all the things I dislike in his work as much as anyone.  I agree totally that the man has been involved in films that have ranged from the brilliant to the mundane, but just because we all despise Jar-Jar Binks and think PHANTOM MENACE was a mediocre film in a usually brilliant series, some us feel the need to kick the guy's teeth in?

: : Yeah, not every step up to the plate yields a home run, but when you're slammimg on the guy, please try to remember that, faults and all, the guy gave us STAR WARS and INDIANA JONES, and our generation got to experience all that, first-hand, in the theatres.  Even if you find EPISODES II & III and Indy 4 to be the most awful films of your life, it can't ever take STAR WARS, RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, and a lot of other swell films away you.

: : YOU may read this and say, "Jesus, calm down; I was only kidding"  That's probably true for most of us, but if there are so many of us doing it, it ain't that funny anymore.  I'll probably gonna get rapped in the mouth for saying all this; but, if I ever met George Lucas face-to-face, the first thing outta my mouth would probably an apology: "Sorry, man; the guys down in the front row who throw beer bottles at you don't speak for all of us."

: I would say that what we've been reading here at the forum has been a classic example of "yeah, sure, but what has he done for us LATELY!" No one ever remembers the items you mention above in that light. I guess there are valid points to both sides of the argument, as he did create everything you mention above, but they all occured in the late '70s and sporatically throughout the 80's. It's 2000 now. The natives are restless to experience what many of us experienced first hand at the premiers of those classics you mention that occurred so many years ago. They want the same shot, and it hasn't been delivered to date.  Even I was surprised at myself when I borrowed and watched the new SW movie on small screen recently. It actually took me 3 days to get through it, as I kept wandering off after losing interest at certain stages of the story development, and I saw it in the theater when it came out. I just don't do that, regardless of how good or bad a film is. Who's at fault? I'm not sure. I certainly hope that he hasn't lost the magic he had when we first saw his original works. I personally don't think so. I agree the bashing has received to date needs to stop, but like I said before, I can understand the frustration. I also don't think we should be to the point of the hanging him in effigy yet. Even great ball players get in a slump now and again, no matter how hard they try. Sooner or later they get back up there. I honestly believe Lucas will deliver again at the level everyone expects, and Indy IV will be another crown jewel in the collection of so many past Lucas successes. Regards. Michaelson

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